Berakhot 38B

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אשמעינן טעמא, ואשמעינן דהלכתא כרבנן. אלא דאמר ״מוציא״ מאי קא משמע לן? ואיהו דעבד לאפוקי נפשיה מפלוגתא.

I would have understood that he thereby taught us the meaning of the verse: “Who brought you forth from Egypt,” and he thereby taught us that the halakha is in accordance with the opinion of the Rabbis. However, what did he teach us by reciting motzi? Everyone agrees that one fulfills his obligation when reciting motzi. The Talmud explains: The son of Rav Zevid did this in order to preclude himself from taking sides in the dispute. He preferred to phrase his blessing in a manner appropriate according to all opinions, rather than teach a novel concept, which is not universally accepted.

והלכתא ״המוציא לחם מן הארץ״, דקיימא לן כרבנן, דאמרי דאפיק משמע.

The Talmud concludes: And the halakha is that one recites: Who brings forth [hamotzi] bread from the earth, as we hold in accordance with the opinion of the Rabbis who say that it also means: Who brought forth.

ועל הירקות אומר וכו׳. קתני ירקות דומיא דפת ⁠— מה פת שנשתנה על ידי האור, אף ירקות נמי שנשתנו על ידי האור. אמר רבנאי משמיה דאביי: זאת אומרת שלקות מברכין עליהן ״בורא פרי האדמה״. ממאי? מדקתני ירקות דומיא דפת.

We learned in the Mishnah that over vegetables one recites: Who creates fruits of the ground. The Talmud comments: The Mishnah taught vegetables together with, and therefore similar to, bread, and from this analogy one may infer: Just as bread is food that was transformed by fire, so too vegetables retain the blessing: Who creates fruits of the ground, after they have been transformed by fire. Rabbenai said in the name of Abaye: This means that over boiled vegetables one recites: Who creates fruits of the ground. From where is this matter inferred? From the fact that the Mishnah taught vegetables similar to bread.

דרש רב חסדא משום רבינו, ומנו ⁠— רב: שלקות מברכין עליהם ״בורא פרי האדמה״. ורבותינו היורדין מארץ ישראל, ומנו ⁠— עולא משמיה דרבי יוחנן אמר: שלקות מברכין עליהן ״שהכל נהיה בדברו״. ואני אומר: כל שתחלתו ״בורא פרי האדמה״, שלקו ⁠— ״שהכל נהיה בדברו״. וכל שתחלתו ״שהכל נהיה בדברו״, שלקו ⁠— ״בורא פרי האדמה״.

Rav Ḥisda taught in the name of Rabbeinu; and the Talmud remarks incidentally: Who is Rabbeinu? Rav. Over boiled vegetables one recites: Who creates fruit of the ground. And our Rabbis who descended from Eretz Yisrael, and again the Talmud explains: And who is the Sage with this title? Ulla said in the name of R' Yoḥanan: Over boiled vegetables one recites: By whose word all things came to be, since after they are boiled, they are no longer the same as they were before. Expressing his own opinion, Rav Ḥisda said: And I say that there is an intermediate opinion: Any vegetable that, when eaten in its original uncooked state, one recites: Who creates fruit of the ground, when he boiled it, he recites: By whose word all things came to be, as boiling damages it qualitatively. And any vegetable that when eaten in its original uncooked state, one recites: By whose word all things came to be, because it is not typically eaten raw, when he boiled it, he recites: Who creates fruit of the ground.

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