Shabbat 41A

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that does not have embankments surrounding it. Since there are no partitions, it appears like an ocean or a river. That incident involving R' Abbahu occurred in a place that has embankments and looks like a vessel. Therefore, the rabbis did not prohibit it.

After citing what R' Zeira related with regard to R' Abbahu, the Talmud cites that R' Zeira said: I saw that R' Abbahu, while he was bathing, placed his hands over his genitals for the sake of modesty, and I do not know whether he touched them or did not touch them. The Talmud questions R' Zeira’s

Abaye said: Nevertheless, no proof can be cited from that baraita. Perhaps the rabbis rendered the legal status of this situation like that of a military unit, as we learned in a Mishnah: A military unit that entered a city, if it entered during peacetime, after the soldiers leave, the open jugs

The Talmud questions the story itself: And is that so? Is it permitted under any circumstances to cover one’s genitals while bathing? Didn’t R' Abba say that Rav Huna said that Rav said: Anyone who places his hands over his genitals is as if he denies the covenant of our father Abraham? It appears

Speaking of bathing and its halakhot, the Talmud relates: R' Zeira was avoiding being seen by his teacher, Rav Yehuda, as R' Zeira sought to ascend to Eretz Yisrael and his teacher disapproved. As Rav Yehuda said: Anyone who ascends from Babylonia to Eretz Yisrael transgresses a positive commandmen