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בית שמאי אומרים מלמעלה, ובית הלל אומרים מלמטה. אמר רבי יהודה: לא תהא מחיצה גדולה מן הכותל שביניהן.
Beit Shammai say: The partition that permits drawing water may be placed below; and Beit Hillel said it must be placed above. R' Yehuda said: A partition for the cistern should be no more stringent than the wall serving as a partition between the two courtyards. Once there is a wall between courtyards, there is no need to erect an additional partition specifically for the cistern.
אמר רבה בר בר חנה אמר רבי יוחנן: רבי יהודה בשיטת רבי יוסי אמרה, דאמר מחיצה תלויה מתרת.
Rabba bar bar Ḥana said that R' Yoḥanan said: R' Yehuda stated his opinion in accordance with the opinion of R' Yosei, who said that a suspended partition permits one to carry, and therefore the wall between the courtyards suffices to divide the cistern as well.
ולא היא, לא רבי יהודה סבר לה כרבי יוסי, ולא רבי יוסי סבר לה כרבי יהודה.
The Talmud rejects this equation. And that is not so, as neither does R' Yehuda hold in accordance with the opinion of R' Yosei, nor does R' Yosei hold in accordance with the opinion of R' Yehuda.
לא רבי יהודה סבר לה כרבי יוסי: עד כאן לא קאמר רבי יהודה התם, אלא בעירובי חצירות דרבנן. אבל הכא, סוכה דאורייתא — לא.
The Talmud elaborates: Neither does R' Yehuda hold in accordance with the opinion of R' Yosei, as R' Yehuda states his opinion that a suspended partition suffices only there, with regard to the joining of the courtyards, which is an obligation by rabbinic law. However, here, with regard to sukka, which is by Torah law, a suspended partition does not suffice.
ולא רבי יוסי סבר לה כרבי יהודה: עד כאן לא קאמר רבי יוסי הכא, אלא בסוכה דמצות עשה. אבל שבת, דאיסור סקילה — לא.
Nor does R' Yosei hold in accordance with the opinion of R' Yehuda, as R' Yosei states his opinion that a suspended partition suffices only here, with regard to a sukka, which is a positive mitzva. However, in the case of carrying between courtyards on Shabbat, which is a prohibition that is punishable by stoning, no, a suspended partition does not suffice.