Shabbat 47A

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הנח לנר שמן ופתילה, הואיל דנעשה בסיס לדבר האסור.

Leave the candle, oil, and wick, since they became a base for a prohibited object. Even R' Shimon agrees that a flame burning on Shabbat is set-aside. Since it is prohibited to move the flame, moving the lamp, oil, and wick is also prohibited.

אמר רבי זירא אמר רבי אסי אמר רבי יוחנן אמר רבי חנינא אמר רבי רומנוס: לי התיר רבי לטלטל מחתה באפרה. אמר ליה רבי זירא לרבי אסי: מי אמר רבי יוחנן הכי? והתנן: נוטל אדם בנו והאבן בידו או כלכלה והאבן בתוכה. ואמר רבה בר בר חנה אמר רבי יוחנן: בכלכלה מלאה פירות עסקינן. טעמא דאית בה פירי, הא לית בה פירי ⁠— לא?

R' Zeira said that R' Asi said that R' Yoḥanan said that R' Ḥanina said that R' Romanus said: R' Yehuda HaNasi permitted me to carry a coal pan with its ashes. R' Zeira said to R' Asi: Did R' Yoḥanan actually say that? Didn’t we learn in a Mishnah: A person may carry his son in his hands and even if the son has a stone, which is prohibited to carry, in his hands; or, one may carry a basket with a stone inside it? And Rabba bar bar Ḥana said that R' Yoḥanan said: We are dealing with a basket that is full of fruit. Due to the fruit, carrying the stone is also permitted. The reason for the leniency is because there is fruit inside the basket; however, if there is no fruit inside it, no, one may not move it. With regard to the coal pan that is filled with ashes, how can moving it be permitted according to R' Yoḥanan?

״אשתומם כשעה חדא״, ואמר: הכא נמי דאית בה קרטין. אמר אביי: קרטין בי רבי מי חשיבי?

“He was astonished for a while” (Daniel 4:16) and could not find an answer. And, ultimately, R' Asi said: Here, too, it is referring to a case where the coal pan has bits of frankincense that were not yet burned. Due to those bits, moving the pan is permitted. Abaye said: Are small bits in the house of R' Yehuda HaNasi significant? Since they are not significant, they are nullified by the ashes and the mixture is entirely unsuitable for use.

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