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אסיר להדוקיה ביומא טבא! בההיא אפילו רבי שמעון מודה. דאביי ורבא דאמרי תרווייהו: מודה רבי שמעון ב״פסיק רישיה ולא ימות״.
it is prohibited to insert it tightly on a Festival due to the prohibited labor of wringing. Doesn’t R' Shimon permit performing an unintentional act from which a prohibited labor may ensue? The Talmud answers: In that case, even R' Shimon concedes that it is prohibited, as it was Abaye and Rava who both said: R' Shimon concedes in instances categorized as: Cut off its head and it should not die. This category refers to situations where the ensuing prohibited labor is inevitable. In those kinds of cases, one is liable even according to R' Shimon. Since stuffing a cloth into a jug will inevitably lead to wringing wine from it, R' Shimon concedes that doing so is forbidden.
והאמר רב חייא בר אשי אמר רב: הלכה כרבי יהודה, ורב חנן בר אמי אמר שמואל: הלכה כרבי שמעון. ורב חייא בר אבין מתני לה בלא גברי, רב אמר: הלכה כרבי יהודה, ושמואל אמר: הלכה כרבי שמעון! אלא אמר רבא: אני וארי שבחבורה תרגימנא, ומנו — רבי חייא בר אבין: הלכה כרבי שמעון, ולאו מטעמיה.
The Talmud asks again: Didn’t Rav Ḥiyya bar Ashi say that Rav said explicitly: The halakha is in accordance with the opinion of R' Yehuda, and Rav Ḥanan bar Ami said that Shmuel said: The halakha is in accordance with the opinion of R' Shimon. And Rav Ḥiyya bar Avin taught the same tradition without mentioning the names of the men who cited the statements, but cited it directly: Rav said: The halakha is in accordance with the opinion of R' Yehuda, and Shmuel said: The halakha is in accordance with the opinion of R' Shimon. Rather, Rava said: I and the lion of the group explained this. And the Talmud asks: And who is the lion of the group? It is R' Ḥiyya bar Avin. He and Rava explained: The halakha is indeed in accordance with the opinion of R' Shimon, but not for his reason.