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״על שפך הדשן ישרף״! אמרי: ההוא ״ישרף״ מיבעי ליה לכדתניא: ״ישרף״ — אף על פי שאין שם דשן. ״ישרף״ — אף על פי שהצית האור ברובו.
“Where the ash is poured it should be burned” (Leviticus 4:12). The Talmud responds: Say: That usage of the expression “it should be burned” is needed for that which was taught in a baraita: It should be burned even though there is no ash there, as the presence of ash from the altar is not essential for burning the bulls. “It should be burned” also teaches that although the fire has consumed most of it, that is not sufficient. One must take care to complete the burning process.
רבינא אמר, כרוך ותני: ״מכות אש״ — אין לי אלא שנכוה באש ובגחלת. נכוה ברמץ, בסיד רותח, ובגפסיס רותח, ובכל דבר הבא מחמת האור, לאיתויי חמי האור, מניין? תלמוד לומר: ״מכוה״ ״מכוה״ ריבה.
Ravina said that the contradiction cited earlier between R' Yehuda HaNasi’s statement, that roasting over coal is considered roasting over fire, and the baraita, which requires a derivation to indicate that coal is considered fire with regard to tzara'at, can be answered by changing the text of the baraita. Combine and teach the first two types of burns together. From the phrase “a burn from fire,” I have derived nothing other than a case in which one was burned by a fire or by a coal. With regard to one who is burned by hot ash, by burning lime, or by burning plaster, or by anything else that is burning and whose source of heat comes from fire, to include water heated by fire, from where is it derived that these cases are also considered a burn from fire? The verse states: A burn, a burn, twice. By repeating the term, it includes all these types of burns.
רבא רמי. מי אמר רבי גחלים איקרו אש? ורמינהי: ״גחלי״ — יכול עוממות, תלמוד לומר: ״אש״. אי אש — יכול שלהבת, תלמוד לומר: ״גחלי״. הא כיצד? מביא מן הלוחשות. (אלמא גחלים לא איקרי אש!
Rava raised a contradiction: Did R' Yehuda HaNasi actually say that coals are called fire? And we raise a contradiction based on the verse: “And he should take a pan full of burning coals from upon the altar before YHWH” (Leviticus 16:12). From the verse’s use of the word coals, I might have thought that one may bring smoldering coals, meaning that the fire is almost extinguished and is not noticeable from the outside. Therefore, the verse states: Fire. If it had stated only fire, I might have thought it was referring to a flame. Therefore, the verse states: Coals. How are these two requirements reconciled? One brings from the coals that are flickering, meaning that the fire is visible. Apparently, plain coals are not called fire.