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התם, כי אמרה ״הוינא בהדיה״ — שבקינן לה. הכא, אף על גב דאמרה ״הוינא בהדיה״ — לא שבקינן לה. והרי מוכה שחין, דאף על גב דאמרה ״הוינא בהדיה״ — לא שבקינן לה. דתנן: חוץ ממוכה שחין, מפני שממקתו וקתני!
but there, with regard to the blemishes specified in the Mishnah, if she says: I want to be with him, we leave her alone with him and do not force a divorce, whereas here, in the case of a woman who has not given birth, even though she says: I want to be with him, we do not leave her alone, as her husband is neglecting the mitzva to be fruitful and multiply. The Talmud raises a difficulty: But there is the case of a husband afflicted with boils, where even though she says: I want to be with him, we do not leave her alone with him. As we learned in the Mishnah: Apart from a situation where her husband is afflicted with boils, because it consumes his flesh. And yet this halakha is taught in the same Mishnah as the others, which indicates that our above analysis is incorrect.
התם כי אמרה ״דיירנא בהדיה בסהדי״ — שבקינן לה. הכא אף על גב דאמרה ״דיירנא בהדיה בסהדי״ — לא שבקינן לה.
The Talmud answers: Even so, there is a difference between these cases, as there, with regard to a man with boils, if she says: I am willing to live with him under the supervision of witnesses; that is, I will not seclude myself with him but I will nevertheless remain his wife, we leave her alone. However, here, even though she says: I will live with him under the supervision of witnesses, we do not leave her alone, but rather force him to divorce her.
תניא, אמר רבי יוסי: שח לי זקן אחד מאנשי ירושלים: עשרים וארבעה מוכי שחין הן, וכולן אמרו חכמים תשמיש קשה להן, ובעלי ראתן קשה מכולן. ממאי הוי? דתניא: הקיז דם ושימש — הויין לו בנים ויתיקין. הקיזו שניהם ושימשו — הויין לו בנים בעלי ראתן. אמר רב פפא: לא אמרן אלא דלא טעים מידי, אבל טעים מידי — לית לן בה.
It is taught in a baraita: R' Yosei said: A certain Elder from among the residents of Jerusalem told me that there are 24 types of patients afflicted with boils, and with regard to all of them the rabbis said that sex are harmful to them, and those afflicted with ra’atan, a severe skin disease characterized by extreme weakness and trembling, are harmed even more than all of the others. The Talmud asks: From where and how does this disease come about? The Talmud answers: As it is taught in a baraita: One who let blood and immediately afterward had sex will have weak [vitaykin] children. If both of them let blood and then had sex, he will have children afflicted with ra’atan. Rav Pappa said in response: We said this only if he did not taste anything between bloodletting and sex, but if he tasted something we have no problem with it, as it is not dangerous.