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שקילא טיבותך שדיא אחיזרי, כבר תרגמה רב הושעיא לשמעתיה בבבל.
Your good is taken and cast on thorns, i.e., we do not owe you a debt of gratitude for informing us of this statement, as Rav Hoshaya himself already interpreted and ruled this halakha of yours in Babylonia.
בנן נוקבן דיהויין ליכי מינאי וכו׳. רב תני: ״עד דתלקחן לגוברין״, ולוי תני: ״עד דתבגרן״. לרב, אף על גב דבגר?! ולוי, אף על גב דאינסיב?!
§ The Mishnah taught that one of the stipulations of the marriage contract is the clause: Any female children you will have from me will be sustained from my property. The Talmud notes that Rav would teach that the daughters are entitled to sustenance until they are taken as wives by men, and Levi would teach that they are entitled to sustenance until they become grown women. The Talmud asks: According to the opinion of Rav, are daughters entitled to sustenance even though they have become grown women, if they are still unmarried? Yet how can this be correct? After all, adult daughters are no longer under their father’s jurisdiction even in his lifetime. And can Levi possibly maintain that even though they are married they still receive sustenance from their father’s estate until they become grown women?
אלא: בגר ולא אינסיב, אינסיב ולא בגר — דכולי עלמא לא פליגי. כי פליגי בארוסה ולא בגר. וכן תני לוי במתניתיה: ״עד דתבגרן וימטי זמניהון דאינסבן״. תרתי? אלא: או תבגרן או ימטי זמניהון לאיתנסבא.
Rather, in a case where they became grown women and were not married, or were married and had not become grown women, everyone agrees that they are not entitled to sustenance. When they disagree it is with regard to a daughter who was betrothed and had not become a grown woman. Levi maintains that as she is still unmarried she remains under her father’s jurisdiction. And Levi likewise taught the following version of this stipulation in his baraita: Until they become grown women and the time arrives for their marriage. The Talmud asks: Are these two conditions both necessary? She leaves her father’s domain when one of these conditions is fulfilled. Rather, Levi means that they can continue to receive sustenance either until they become grown women or their time arrives for marriage.